Comparing just a few estimates between systems could yield results that show wide variances. Because labor amounts are developed separately and under different procedures by the individual information providers, any single vehicle’s data could show extreme differences. If System A shows 2.0 hours to refinish a certain fender, while System B shows 2.2 for the same part, System B appears to provide 10 percent more labor time. I have reviewed many of these “mini-studies” accusing one vendor or another of being too high (or too low) and might find wide variances such as this on a single estimate comparison. However, labor on the next part or next estimate may just as easily show System A higher.
For example, the chart below shows labor amounts for a common part on a common vehicle estimated on each system. Additional operations were not added, even though procedures indicated they were needed.As shown, we can see a variance in labor amounts. The ADP system appears to provide 20 percent less labor, which could lead to an erroneous conclusion.
However, labor procedures are different with each system. For replacement hood labor, the hood insulator pad R&I is treated differently. ADP does not include labor, MOTOR includes labor when it is standard equipment, and Mitchell includes labor if it is clip-on, but not the adhesive type. If we add the needed labor amount for hood insulator pad Remove and Install (R&I) (0.3 on the ADP system), ADP’s labor amount becomes greater.
Again, it depends on how well the estimate is written.
Now let’s look at some additional parts for the same car, both separately and combined.Sometimes the flat rate amounts are simply different, some higher, some lower.
Many times the flat rate amounts are varied from not having comparable operations selected, not having proper procedures applied, or not following text notes. After adding operations according to each system’s P-pages and Labor Notes, I came up with the following totals. My totals do not include labor for exterior trim, suspension alignments or refinish. My totals are still debatable, serving here only as an example.
By adding operations according the written rules, labor totals can change significantly. However, perfectly applying a system's procedures may be arguable. Would the writer have likely thought to add this item or make a proper judgment allowance for an operation “not included” on only one of the systems being compared? For example, when replacing a fender, MOTORS includes labor for replacing the fender liner, while Mitchell does not. Neither is wrong, just different. Would the Mitchell user have remembered to add a labor allowance for that liner?
Still, there will be differences on any one single claim. After several hundred different estimate comparisons, results start to show consistency. Even though some estimates are higher on one system, other estimates will be lower. Results tend to even out with a large numbers of cases, depending on the way P-page information is interpreted and applied. This, of course, assumes there is agreement in each case as to what is the perfect way to write a comparable estimate.
It seems highly unlikely that even two people would agree completely on enough estimates for a sample size large enough to have meaningful results.
Finally, the best argument for the initial question concerns market share. Sales figures for the three information providers vary dramatically within different regions of the country and comparisons of overall market share are subjective at best. More importantly, providers successfully sell their products to both insurers and repairers. If, in the long run, any system was consistently lower or higher for bottom line results, it would tend to be bought by only one of those markets.
With all three information providers selling to both sides of the market, we can conclude that their bottom-line results are fairly equivalent in the long run. Even though each has a different way of developing, automating and displaying the information, they are fulfilling their mission as neutral, independent vendors of collision repair cost data.
Sooooooo, which system pays more?
It depends.
It depends on how well the estimate is written according to the system being used. How well is your system being used?2000 Chevrolet CavalierAdjusted LaborReplacement PartsADPMOTORS Mitchell